#### Forwarded from the Mostly MIDI mailing list (twitch!midi) #### >From uucp Tue Aug 29 17:12 EDT 1989 >From saqqara.cis.ohio-state.edu!david!david Tue Aug 29 15:37:07 1989 remote from att Received: by cis.ohio-state.edu (smail2.5) id AA16788; 29 Aug 89 15:37:07 EDT (Tue) To: osu-cis!att!twitch!midi Subject: FSK tape sync tips on the Porta-02. To: MMML A friend of mine who also has a porta-02 had some questions about tape sync with FSK as I was starting to get long winded about it I thought others might be able to make use of my experiences. Maybe others could add to it to create a tutorial guide on tape sync for the midi-archives. I know I could have certainly used this info several months ago when I was having problems. I was trying to use FSK the other day (yes, thru the sync in/out ports) and was having some problems. I assume if you have the sync button engaged, the channel 4 controls are bypassed, i.e. I don't have to adjust the fader. Right? ]Right. When using the sync in port and enabling the sync button it doesn't care what you do with the fader for track 4 as far as the sync tone is concerned. There is no control over the input recording level on sync when using to record sync in this manner. You only have control over the sync level when it is coming out the sync out port by way of the sync out pot. The next question you might be asking yourself is "How the hell do I control the sync level when recording it if I need to?" The way to do that is NOT use the sync in port but use tape mic 4 track in and adjust the levels with trim and fader to get the level you need. Then you again might ask "Then what about DBX? DBX doesn't get bypassed if you go through tape mic track 4?" That's right! You would first have to record the sync tone without DBX and nothing else and then use DBX to add the other tracks using the porta-02 as the master and your sequencer as the slave. OR you could send the sync in through an external device like a mixer or amp to control the level before it comes into the sync in port. I have tried this recently and have had good results. Speaking of recording sync levels I ran into a problem and was able to understand it a little better. When you put down a sync tone and start to add music to each track (i.e. 1-3) it somehow decreases the strength of the sync tone on track 4. You may not notice the problem at first if you only add one or two tracks of music or just add one to tape and listen to second one through your monitoring system. It will show up if you start to add music to the other three tracks if the sync tone on track 4 is not strong enough. It will show up by causing the sequencer to drop in and out. You will notice the LED turning on and off. To get the sucker to work I re-recorded the sync tone VERY high. Like +3 or a little more. This handled the problem except that the sync tone is now screaming away in the background and bleeds over to other tracks. I could only notice it when nothing else was on the tape and I listen to other tracks with no music on it. Another tip for recording with FSK is to make sure that the sync tone is a good recording without drop outs. Verify the tone after it has been sent to tape by rewinding the tape and letting the sequencer play with the tape. I have found it a mistake to put down music and sync tone at the same time and not verify it only to find out later that the sync tone was not recorded properly. As far as adding the extra voices you wouldn't know if the level is ok until then but you can find out if you have problems in the first stage by making sure there are no drop outs. What should the channel 4 selector be on (tape, mic, off). I know the other track 4 selector should be on sync. What do you set these things to for playback or recording? ]For playback you set to off, otherwise you will hear the whining noise of the sync tone. If you are using the sync in for record as well as for playback you can just leave track 4 in the off position. You CAN use tape out 4 instead of the sync out but you don't have control over the output level because tape out for track 4 (actually, 1 thru 4) are straight from the buss as I understand it. I was confused about this because I was able to hear a level change from my stereo amp when I would move a fader on any track up or down. The reason that works like it should is that I was use Left & Right out which is not the same as tape out 1-4. Tape out 1-4 is setup this way as a feature to be able to make a copy or blend to another 4 track machine or fill up four tracks out of another 8 track machine. Another tip I read about in EM is that tape sync is not always perfect. Be warned that if you tape sync anything that is written to be in unison since there can be problems with getting it together. I was not happy to read about that and so far I have not experienced it. The article might have only been referring to SMPTE but after reading about the experiences that Bill Fox had it sounds like it would apply to FSK too. I am going to watch out for this one. David ...att!osu-cis!david!david